Caroline Forbes said:
Honestly I think, despite what she said, she was ANGRY about what he'd said about her and the fact that he didn't graciously apologize (which let's face it, he should have, even if he didn't mean it) only added fuel to the fire.
So should EH shown a little more professionalism? Yes. (And so should Joy every day of her damn life, but that's another story.)
Did he owe HER an apology? How many ppl has she slammed & defamed (& was SERIOUS [even if her OPINION was uniformed] about it & has yet to apologize for it)?
Joy & Barbara both pointed out that comedians often walk that line & are out on the edge undoubtedly whatever they say someone somewhere is gonna be offended. that's nothing new. but why is it always the right wingers like EH who are big & bad when they wanna be can't seem to take what they dish out? That bitch bad mouthed Gabrielle Giffords after the woman got shot in the head & was near DEATH & tried to blame it on HER? where was the apology for that? Free speech, opinions & jokes (even crass ones that happen to include her name in it) go both ways.
Interestingly, Whoopi was rather silent on all this. She's a comedienne, a liberal & has had often been @ odds with EH, "the right" & made scathing remarks about Bush etc.
oh she was definitely angry & HURT by it & everyone on the panel in one way or another picked up on that & some even commented on it but she denied it (badly) to the end. maybe if she had came @ him HONESTlY about it instead of trying to be a clever & "bitchy" about it, it would've helped her case. either way she failed w/ that big time & once again made herself look like an ass.
Difference between her & Joy? Joy (like her or not) doesnt give a fuck & has a thick skin. She can dish it out & takes quite a bit of it.
he wasnt on the dais for that issue but since she wanted to bring it up, she shouldve been been better prepared, so I agree w/ you on that too.
Caroline Forbes said:
But did Bill Maher do the wrong thing and keep adding fuel to the fire instead of starting off with, "I'm sorry I made a joke about you that was in bad taste." and that being the end of it? Yes.
Someone should have decided beforehand that putting the two in a room together wasn't going to be a good idea and pulled her from that interview. Which as I said is unfortunate because Democrats shouldn't get a free pass just because Joy loves them
Sure, Bill COULD have been kinder to her, but we know that's not the kind of man he is. He's NOT a gentleman & he's not about the business of coddling or petting a person up. at the same time, he wasnt looking for a fight w/her. she brought it to him. She's LUCKY he didnt roast her ass on her own show the way he COULD have. In a battle of wits, she was clearly UNARMED. But Bill repeatedly tried to move on & she kept @ it. Her other co-hosts tried to move it along, she kept @ it. She brought that shit on herself imo & watching her down was funny to me.
Having those two on the show a good idea? NO WAY but don't forget, its Barbara's show & that woman is very shrewed in her dealings & actions lol.
They also had Bill O'rielly, a loud mouth chauvanist bigot on there...amongst a group of WOMEN, on a show owned BY a woman. That was a trainwreck before it unfolded but it got massive ratings, just like this show did today. They have guests on there that @ times are the anethma to any number of the women on the panel. Barbara knows that & quite frankly I don't think she cares b/c she's shown before that no one on that show is irreplacable. not even a ratings booster like Rosie O'Donnell.
On the other hand, EH likes to act tough & bad ass any other day when there's no one on there to get her told. Rosie smacked her ass around quite often on there & left her in tears, which I loved. If you gonna be out there hollering & screaming your OPINION you better be able to stand by it & she can't. Whoopi takes her to task often too, as does Joy. Those are the only two on the show she DOESN'T try.
If dems get a free pass on The View, then the repubs surely get it on Fox news...on any number of programs on that channel <<shrug>> but really i dont think either gets a free pass all the time. Whoopi had to eat crow when she made the mistake of defending Michael Vick's conduct & as much as I like her, I couldn't get on board w/ what she said about that. It was shocking to me that a woman who is as informed as she seems to be took the position she did but the outcry was so much that she apologized the next show.
Elizabeth hasselbeck made herself look, at best, like a spoiled and bratty little girl and at worst like the type of people who pay lip service to the First Amendment. She threatened to ruin the segment with her snippy comments and her denials about being hurt when she clearly was...she is lucky that Maher let her off lightly.
agreed. hence maher's comment about feeling like he was in highschool. everyone on the panel could tell she was clearly hurt about it but I still say that it wasnt so much on behalf of LL or "women everywhere" as she weakly tried to say & more b/c it was HERself that was included in the joke. I don't think she cared @ all that Laura Logan's tragedy was the basis of the joke, just that SHE was put into the mix & ppl laughed @ HER.
And I thought the Laura Logan joke was funny...just sayin'.
i thought it was a bad thing to joke about & i stand by that. rape is no laughing matter. HASSLEBACK is...all day long but that's an entirely different thing.