The Democratic Primary is Finally Over!

Why do keep trying to force me into a box: Labeling me, defining me, putting me in one party or another, telling me what I do and do not know, telling me how I should interpret my experiences?
I've already said I don't agree with everything Bush has done. But for you to assert that he hasn't protected us because we haven't been attacked doesn't even make sense. In fact, what better proof is there?
I'm part of a group that often travels internationally and we've never had any difficulty. We worked with a village in West Africa where America (or Americans) had built a school, dug wells, furnished a clinic, and provided vaccines. We had the honor to meet with the chief of chiefs and he loved that we were Americans. He said (and you may not want to hear this) that we brought great honor to his village. We do stuff like this all over the world. Of course not everyone likes us and, sure, we mistakes from time to time, but I believe we show great restraint with our military and great generosity with our resources.
 
Where have I once asserted that we haven't been attacked? 9/11 did happen, and it was on Bush's watch, might I add. I said that you have no proof that any of his policies has prevented future terrorist attacks against us. For you to claim so, especially when you lack any significance whatsoever is a logical fallacy.

Let me refer you to an episode of the Simpsons which will simplify the "correlation does not equal causality" argument for you.

Homer: Well, there's not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol is sure doing its job.
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, sweetie.
Lisa: Dad, what if I were to tell you that this rock keeps away tigers.
Homer: Uh-huh, and how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work. It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: I see.
Lisa: But you don't see any tigers around, do you?
Homer: Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock.

In other words, just because you see a correlation between two things, that doesn't mean that one necessarily causes the other. Simply put, you have no way of proving that Bush's policies have prevented terrorist attacks from happening just because of the fact that one hasn't happened since 9/11. It's specious reasoning and completely illogical to think that that's the case, especially when you have no evidence to back up that assertion.

Secondly, Africa is one of the only places that still admires the United States. In large part this is due to the increase in AIDS funding we have given them in the last eight years. Besides, if you had your way, the aid we give to Africa would disappear altogether, mainly because you don't want the federal government doing anything other than securing the country and protecting the free market.

And if you feel that the United States is a benevolent power, you know nothing about our history post-WWII. We help certain countries, but only when we benefit in return. It has nothing to do with the kindness and goodness of our nation, but instead our actions are motivated almost entirely by politics. After all, we've supported more than a dozen dictators in numerous countries throughout the last four decades, and we were the very ones who trained and financed Osama bin Laden in his fight against the Soviets in the 80s. Additionally, in terms of GDP, the United States actually gives less than any other industrialized country in the world. We're also the only member of the UN Security Council that doesn't pay its dues. To say that we show "restraint" with our military, especially after the invasion of Iraq, and "generosity" with our resources simply isn't backed up by the facts. I find the "generosity" part of your argument extremely ironic, as you seem to favor giving aid to other countries, while at the same time, you don't really care about people suffering in your own.
 
There you go again, telling me what I do and do not know. And yep, you're right, I just don't care about people suffering in America. That's me, mister mean ol' conservative. You got me. You've labled me, defined me, and put a box around my (clearly limited) experiences and knowledge.
I was going to list all of the charity and disaster relief work I've done this year, but I really don't have anything to prove to you. Suffice it to say that one of my core beliefs (and practices) is to care for the hurting, the needy, the elderly. That's something everyone should and could do. I just don't think it's the government's job.
In fact, a smaller government with fewer social programs would require less taxes. The more I have, the more I can give away. Let me decide how to use my money to help people.
And we most certainly do show military restraint. We've never been an empire builder. When we attacked Iaq everyone, Republican and Democrat alike, believed Iraq had WMDs. To judge past actions by current knowledge isn't fair. And, yes, we financed Bin Laden. At the time Russia was a much more imminent threat. Allegiances change, loyalties shift. Many of our current allies are former enemies. Surely you know this.
You assert that Bush's policies haven't contributed to the lack of terrorist attacks in the US. I guess they just decided to leave us alone of their own accord. Those fanatical terrorists who are determined to see the absolute destruction of our way of life have just taken a break. Not sure I can buy into that train of thought, man.
 
Again, your argument of individuals being more effective than the government is just silly. How many people refuse to give handouts to the poor? How many people ignore the poor altogether? How much have you accomplished by yourself? Do you honestly think that individuals with limited power and resources can effectively enact change better than the government?

Consider the kind of government-run aid given out during the 30s, 40s, and 50s, and the way in which it literally fixed an America crippled by the Great Depression and the collapse of the stock market. By your standards, you would have expected private corporations or organizations to provide food and clothing to those displaced by economic hardship despite the fact that history has proven that that never happens. Private companies, like Walmart for instance, provide short term relief, like ice and bottled water in New Orleans (which was turned down by FEMA, by the way), but in the long term, when it comes to getting people back on their feet and providing them with affordable housing of some sort, those same organizations never follow through.

Sure there are effective and ineffective government, but it all depends on who is running it. I don't think you could honestly say FDR's government was ineffective, and he launched more "socialist" reforms than any other president in history, whereas Bush's government has been largely ineffective and costly because of the fact that he's relied on independent contractors and private companies to do the jobs that government workers could otherwise do for less. When you have a president whose fundamental ideological stance is that government doesn't work, how can you expect to have a functioning and effective government?

As for the militarism of the United States, here's a very short list for you.

-1954 CIA sponsored coup of democratically elected leader Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala for wanting to redistribute the land possessed by the US owned and operated United Fruit Co.
-1973 Overthrow of Salvador Allende, democratically elected leader of Chile, and installation of dictator Augusto Pinochet
-American installation of the Shah of Iran, which eventually led to an overthrow by the population of the country and the rise of Ayatollah Khomeini. The US harbored the Shah after he was deposed despite the demands from the Iranian government to hand him over.
-The US backed the dictators Suharto in Indonesia and Marcos in the Philippines.
-The US provided Saddam Hussein with the chemical weapons he used to gas the Kurds, along with the weapons he used in his war against Iran in the 1980s.

Many of these places are hotspots of radicalism all over the world today. The CIA uses the term "Blowback" to talk about unintended long-term consequences of US foreign policy. Is it really too much for you to grasp that the people of nations whose affairs we have meddled in might begrudge us for our actions? Conservatives always ask things like "What would drive someone to become a suicide bomber?" etc, and simply attribute it to either insanity or the fact that these "terrorists" hate "freedom." How would you feel if a country overseas that was meddling in your economy was the source of your economic hardship? How would you feel if they had been manipulating your government and causing you to suffer economically, politically, and socially? And most importantly, how would you feel if members of your family were killed by the military actions of said country? Wouldn't you want revenge? For every civilian we kill overseas, whether it's in Iraq or anywhere else, we create two new insurgents. For every woman that is raped by a US soldier, and yes, it has happened, we create new insurgents. For every massacre that is committed, we create dozens of new insurgents. In other words, to say that US militarism or foreign policy has no effect around the world is simply wrong. We create our own worst problems, something highlighted by the fact that our own worst enemies today were once our allies.

As for "Judging past actions with current knowledge," if you want that to be the standard, then the US, or any other country for that matter, isn't responsible for anything that it's ever done. Just because you might have good intentions, and I'm not saying the US always has, when you intervene in an area doesn't mean that you are exempt from taking the responsibility for your actions. Conservatives know this better than anyone else, or at least they claim to. If you screw up, you're respected to accept the consequences, not just attribute such failures to unforeseen consequences as you deny all blame whatsoever for the mess you created.

Not everyone believed that Iraq had WMDs. The infamous "Downing Street Memo," as well as the American NIE all showed that the likelihood that Saddam Hussein had restarted his WMD programs was very, very low. Anyone who bothered to read the documents for themselves could see this. Instead, the administration, with the help of the media, helped to spread propaganda that lied this country into war. They provided the Congress, both Republicans and Democrats with their information. They sold the war as a cakewalk where we would be greeted as liberators, a statement which anyone could judge as patently false. The current in-group of influential conservatives all believe in nation building and using American power to change reality. Everyone from Francis Fukuyama to Bill Krystol to Paul Wolfowitz all subscribe to the doctrine of American empire, and they were highly influential in shaping the administration's post-9/11 foreign policy.

Lastly, show me proof that Bush has stopped a terrorist attack. So far, he's 0/1, as 9/11 happened on his watch. Where is your proof? Don't just give me the specious argument of "it hasn't happened so he must be doing something right." How do you know that Al Qaeda hasn't attempted an attack on the US mainland because they're too busy destroying our military in Iraq and Afghanistan? How do you know they're not planning attacks on other countries instead? The fact is that you don't. To automatically attribute a lack of attacks to successful policy is just illogical and wrongheaded.
 
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