Harry Potter and the Deadly Hollows (Spoilers)

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I read this about a week after it came out. i really enjoyed it, it was fasted paced contained a great deal of action. i felt this was a everything a finally should be. The only thing i didn't like was the camping scenes they really cut into the flow of the book and brought out the worst characterization in each character. i also wish the epilogue was bigger and we found out what happened to Harry, Hermonie, Ron and others like career choices marriages children as well as a bigger battle with Harry and Voldemort but thats really a minor fanboy thing.
 
I thought it was a good read and a fitting end to the series. But, yeah, just like you I would've liked a little more from the epilogue. That part at the end where Harry tells his son he was "named for two headmasters of Hogwarts, one the bravest man I know" (Severus) actually hit me a little. Didn't expect the ending to a series I've read passively (only the last 4 books) to evoke emotion.

It was good to see the whole Ron/Hermione thing finally recognized. Always liked them more than Harry, myself.
 
The series itself was extremely well crafted the way the Rowling gives each of the characters a voice and a personality you really can't help but feel for each of them. To be honest the star of that book really turn out to be Neville he really stole the spotlight (well at least for me). If he gets a spin-off i would be in line to buy a copy.
 
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You think Rowling will write any more Potter books? You mentioned you'd like to see a Nevill spinoff. What about something showing Harry, Ron and Hermione a little farther down the line?

And were you a little surprised that not a single one of the three ended up teaching at Hogwarts? I mean, Hermione especially seemed like she would have become an instructor. I wonder what their lives are like now.
 
in interviews she said Harry does a little guest teaching (hes an auror and department head) but really theres no need for more from Harry, Ron or Hermonie. I think their story is done they got their happy ending and they should keep it.

I think she said she was closing the book on the Potterverse. Shes doing one last Encyclopedia-ish project to close the door and tell the final stories mostly just her leftover notes that she couldn't use in the books.
 
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Ah, it's just as well. We can still look forward to the last movie, though. I actually think the last book will be easier to adapt then some of the other books were. It's pretty straightforward and I don't think as much will get lost in the translation as in some of the others.
 
thats actually something I'm looking forward the 7th movie will be the best. the only problem is the actors will look like there in their 30's ;)
 
*laughs*
Yeah. As long as they stay out of jail and rehab, it's all good, though.
 
I don't know. the actress that plays Hermonie looks like she a few years of rehab coming up.
 
I don't think it was a good idea to "out" him. If he's gay in her mind, that's fine, but I don't think topics like that have any place in what is essentialy a children's book. Children have to grow up so fast in our culture as it is, let's just leave sexual subjects for the adults.
 
"Homosexuality" is not necessarily about sexuality though. In this case it had nothing to do with sex, but love/feelings/relationships/etc., and they have a lot of those things in the HP books so I dunno what you're talking about.
I kind of love the fact that she said that, obviously Dumbledore was gay, why not?
Actually this makes me slightly less annoyed about how stereotypically heteronormative the HP books have generally been.

I liked this book a lot, and I love what they did to Dumbledore and Snape. It was sort of what I had expected – although I didn't have an idea about the details 'course.

Black King said:
i also wish the epilogue was bigger and we found out what happened to Harry, Hermonie, Ron and others like career choices marriages children as well as a bigger battle with Harry and Voldemort but thats really a minor fanboy thing.
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I have to say I hated the epilogue. It was the only part I really really disliked. Seriously, yeah they're all happily married, awesome families, heteronormative dream.
Personally I would have loved to just get a hint that Harry and Ginny were getting back together, that would have been a better ending to me...
 
eponinethen said:
"Homosexuality" is not necessarily about sexuality though.
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I disagree.
Webster's defines homosexuality this way: erotic activity with another of the same sex.
Furthermore, homosexual is defined this way: 1 : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex
2 : of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex.

I just don't think those are themes children should have to deal with.
 
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I have to say I hated the epilogue. It was the only part I really really disliked. Seriously, yeah they're all happily married, awesome families, heteronormative dream.
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See but I don't think on the other hand we have to make it wrong to be heterosexual either. It's just as right to be either.
 
Archon, while understand what the definition of homosexuality is when looked up, I disagree that that must be all that it is about. It is no more simply sexual than if he were heterosexual, nor any relationship or feelings that he may have for someone more sexually charged. The fact that he was gay seemed to add a deeper meaning to some of his actions at least in the reports I have read, and none of that has to do with sex.

On a note to agree with Vilandra, I have absolutely no problem with the happy-ever-after theme of the end. I find it refreshing, and it makes no sense to force another ending (in terms of homosexuality or anything else) where it doesn't fit. Plus, I think Rowling knew she would answer questions forever if she did not speak to Harry and his friends' futures.
 
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i think the happy-ever-after ending was perfect it closed the door on the characters and gave them a fit ending no more battles, the war is won let them enjoy the days.
 
Vilandra said:
See but I don't think on the other hand we have to make it wrong to be heterosexual either. It's just as right to be either.
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What? I never said anything about heterosexuality, 'course it's not wrong, why would it be? I just find it lame that they end it with a stereotypically heteronormative fairytale ending. The Harry Potter series to me is not mainly a story about finding someone to marry and have kids with. I just found that epilogue unnecessary. (Which does not mean I think heterosexuality is wrong, lol.)


On the homosexuality thing. I know that some people define straight/gay/bi/etc. only based on who you have sex with, but to me that makes no sense. For example, you can identify as lesbian, even if you also identify as asexual – and don't like sexual intimacy. Sex and love don't necessarily have anything to do with one another.

I agree that a detailed sex scene between Dumbledore and Grindelwald – but between any other characters too for that matter – might not be in place in HP, but why is should there not be characters identifying as homosexuals? There are obvious heterosexual relationships, and characters who identify as heterosexuals.
 
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By heteronormative, don't you mean that it's the stereotypical, mom and dad, 3 kids, white picket fence "American" dream?
 
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