Friday the 13th [spoilers contained]

[Karma]

Alright, I saw this bastard baby produced by Platinum Dunes/Michael Bay and although I went in with LOW expectations? the FLOOR STILL DROPPED OUT from underneath THAT and I was UPSET at myself for having PAID to see this shit!

and now, here is my SCATHING critique of this film.

To begin, Pamela Voorhees (now played by Star Trek: Deep Space Nine actress, Nana Visitor) appears in all of 5 seconds of the film. Her LEGENDARY run in the original Friday the 13th film is MINIMIZED to a shocking extent and her presence in the film is about strong as Prue Halliwell's after Shannen Doherty left Charmed.

Jason gets to kill not one but TWO batches of teenagers who look like they were on their way to an ambercrombie & fitch photo shoot. The first batch loses their way in the woods (despite having a GPS device on hand) and after the obligatory journey into sex and glorifying drug use...that group is dispatched by a large, FAST MOVING Jason who wears a bag on his head.


6 weeks passes and the 2nd batch arrives, to spend time at a luxury cottage which happens to be mere steps away from Camp Crystal Lake. These teens are just as beautifull and no less self absorbed. the poster child for Hitler's "master race" male (a blonde, blue eyed asshole) spends most of his time trying to control everyone else while the girl with a heart of gold wanders through the forest with the "mysterious stranger with a connection to the events that no one can figure out yet".

Soon, Jason [who seems to have set traps and other things about the forest] is at it again...dispatching THIS group of teens. He finds his iconic hokey mask in the attic of some derranged red neck who was about to have sex with a mannequin! the kill scenes are predictable and its hard to care about any of the victims.

two would be survivors emerge as darkness sets in and the body count reaches its maximum capacity...a THIRD survivor from the FIRST group of teens is found and joins the scooby doo-esque chase sequence between themselves and jason through the forest.

In the end...TWO survive the usual "Final girl" and this time a "Final boy".

BUT OF COURSE just as they breathe sigh of relief against the newly risen sun in the sky...

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Jason bursts up from the water and grabs the "final girl" and the movie is over.

The movie was NO DIFFERENT than any other SEQUEL to the original...it's not even WORTH being called a "new beginning" because it OBVIOUSLY tapped into the story of the FIRST film. It was TERRIBLY predictable from one moment to the next. it wasnt clever, it wasnt a "tender homage"...it wasnt ANYTHING that Platinum Dunes promised it would be...and why? because A) they had Michael Bay directing it and B) if a film is CLASSIC, then it doesnt need to be REMADE or "REIMAGINED"

In short: Don't make the mistake i did...WAIT for dvd...or if you just HAVE to see it at the theatre, be SMART and catch a matinee'.

NEXT --->

 

[Osiris]

I respectfully disagree! I thought the movie was great! I saw it on opening night and decided to forgo my usual read the reviews process and since I came in with low expectations in the first place (I mean why redo Jason?) I was pleasantly surprised.

I was not expecting this to beat the iconic original films but just like the current crop of horror remakes I just wanted to see how they were going to "re-imagine" without taking too much away from the original.

As a fan of the Jason and Nightmare on Elm street fans, I believed it to be blasphemous in of itself to even attempt to redo this film and "street" later, but the reality is that the originals were good for their time but were really goofy to begin with, with the exception of the Wes Craven directed Elm Streets, IMHO.

That being said, I was glad they lost the white girl who always falls while a frankensteinesque Jason always gets his girl. I was glad that they played a little off the racial stereotypes of the horror genre (maybe me and my friend were looking into this too deep) by not allowing the first murder in the film to be a black guy (certainly you heard the joke about the black guy being killed before the intro credits roll!).

I think they went in a good direction without taking too much away. By modernizing Jason in the way Dawn of the Dead was by making him run, use various weapons, and have some intelligence, they at least made him in my opinion, a little more "believable".

I'm certain Farrah won't see eye to eye on me with this one, but I think they did enough without going too overboard with "freshness" ensuring a lot of similarity with the "spirit" of the originals.

In the theater where I saw it, there was a standing ovation before the film title "Friday the 13th" appeared after the first group of teens were dispatched.

And about that casting....it was a Jason flick, it would look like the original if they didn't have the same type of casting, and who really wanted to sit through a Jason flick all these years later spending more than 5 minutes watching his mom do all the killing?

 

[Karma]

I respectfully disagree! I thought the movie was great! I saw it on opening night and decided to forgo my usual read the reviews process and since I came in with low expectations in the first place (I mean why redo Jason?) I was pleasantly surprised.

i invite EVERYONE to disagree (or agree) that's one of the points of discussing movies :nod:

I was not expecting this to beat the iconic original films but just like the current crop of horror remakes I just wanted to see how they were going to "re-imagine" without taking too much away from the original.

reducing Pamela Voorhees' involvement to 5 seconds in the film was ENOUGH of "taking away" don't you think? as a feminist...I seem to be one of the FEW people that recognizes the IMPORTANCE of Pamela Voorhees in horror films. She was one of the FIRST FEMALE serial killers in a genre dominated by men and male monsters. even before Lila Loomis and Mary Loomis sought revenge on Norman Bates in Psycho II ( 1983) , Pamela Voorhees changed the game in horror. She brought the violence IN YOUR FACE to movie audiences in the original friday the 13th (1979) and until that time....you hadnt seen something like that.

As a fan of the Jason and Nightmare on Elm street fans, I believed it to be blasphemous in of itself to even attempt to redo this film and "street" later, but the reality is that the originals were good for their time but were really goofy to begin with, with the exception of the Wes Craven directed Elm Streets, IMHO.

the only reason the original friday the 13th and the concept of "slasher films" has become "goofy" is because (as you say) the times have changed but ALSO during the late 80's...with the staturation of slasher films DIRECT TO VIDEO, the IMPACT began to cheapen, not to mention the hit or miss experiments of SEQUELS to established monsters like Jason, Freddy and Michael Myers where you had different writers who didnt always follow the template of the original creators/directors etc. SCREAM represented a MAJOR revival in horror/slasher movies but then even THAT became copied and soon PARODIED so here we are again.

those of us who are old enough to remember the first Friday and "Street" can recall how and WHY they were so scarey. To this day i STILL can't watch "Street" by myself...the musical score [not just the theme song] of the original "Street" (composed, arranged and produced by Charles Bernstein) REMAINS one of THE SCARIEST musical scores of any horror film in the modern age. I know people my age and OLDER who are unsettled by it.

I feel like if a CLASSIC just MUST be remade, then why not pay more attentio to the original story? why not acknowledge the plot and continuity?

I am one of the FEW people who thinks Gus Van Saint's SHOT BY SHOT remake of "PSYCHO" (1998) was BRILLIANT. it was "updated" in subtle ways to reflect the time in which it was made but the movie was THE SAME..it wasnt "taken in a new direction" which often spells FAILURE (Bewitched anyone?)

That being said, I was glad they lost the white girl who always falls while a frankensteinesque Jason always gets his girl. I was glad that they played a little off the racial stereotypes of the horror genre (maybe me and my friend were looking into this too deep) by not allowing the first murder in the film to be a black guy (certainly you heard the joke about the black guy being killed before the intro credits roll!).

they lost the "white girl who falls" and replaced her with a white boy who was an ASSHOLE and an irritating asian (for obvious comedic relief) and a hyper sensitive black guy....who while he did an EXCELLENT JOB of trying to defend himself and escape Jason...he STILL was the SOLE black character in the movie and he STILL got killed. Even Wes Craven broke ground with having a black character who not only fought back against freddy but SURVIVED to the sequel. the Friday the 13th movies have YET to do that lol!

I think they went in a good direction without taking too much away. By modernizing Jason in the way Dawn of the Dead was by making him run, use various weapons, and have some intelligence, they at least made him in my opinion, a little more "believable".

and what direction was that? Jason spent part of the time with a bag on his head and the other time with a mask...(which totally flew in the face of how he found the mask [in part III] so continuity once again was OUT OF THE WINDOW. Yes he had some crude intelligence, but then again so did Michael Myers (driving a car!?) and what about in Jason VII when he fought the telekinetic Tina? he had to be intelligent enough to keep UPGRADING HIS WEAPONS in his attempts to subdue her.

I'm certain Farrah won't see eye to eye on me with this one, but I think they did enough without going too overboard with "freshness" ensuring a lot of similarity with the "spirit" of the originals.

In the theater where I saw it, there was a standing ovation before the film title "Friday the 13th" appeared after the first group of teens were dispatched.

I dont think there was anything fresh about it really. i could almost GUESS who was about to be killed and when. yes there was VAGUE feeling of "connection" between this movie and the first one in that they were in a forest, there was crystal lake. it stopped there. the teens were SLIGHTLY more aware of their environment...and not given over to AS much debauchery but even the virginal girl "with a heart" was OFFED just as the scooby doo-esque chase sequence between Jason and the final three survivors was under way.

I did think it was a triumph for MEN to finally see a "final boy" join the classic "Final Girl" character ("Alice" from the original film; "Nancy" from Nightmare on Elm street; "Laurie Strode" from Halloween etc)

And about that casting....it was a Jason flick, it would look like the original if they didn't have the same type of casting, and who really wanted to sit through a Jason flick all these years later spending more than 5 minutes watching his mom do all the killing?

the highest profile cast member of the teens was Willa Ford (a wanna be pop princess and a cheap knockoff of Britney ) and

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she got ran over by a boat before being run through by Jason LOL!

and Pamela Voorhees was portrayed by Nana Visitor [ Star trek: Deep space nine]...and while she may have had the voice and the look...she is NO MATCH for Betsy Palmer's classic portrayal of the QUEEN of slashers.

 

[Osiris]

So if I get it right, you just didn't like the movie!

I personally don't think adding more Pamela time would have helped. I think the whole point or theme was to have the iconic figure we all remember most Jason with a Hockey mask hunting people down. They went straight for the action part with updates because they most likely assumed most people watching would be fans and are already acquainted with the story. There was no real need for all the biography stuff like his mother and how he got the mask.

Personally, I just wanted to see Jason kill people and see if they could make the "situation" a little more believable in this era.

On race, I guess the token "Hilter Youth" male, black guy, and Asian guy was a bit much. But I got the subtle joke. By allowing the 1 black guy to last longer and having him fight and make us think he may get away, at least gave a lot of black guys a good laugh as we always yell out loud what we would do and how the black characters if there are any are never "authentic". The black guy in this film had promise.....

Either way, I think our disagreement is simple. You preferred to have more bio and original story authenticity, I just didn't want it to suck and get right into the meat and potatoes and see what's new. They may have spit on the bio and even like all Jason films, even though the deaths were somewhat predictable (you can't tell me you expected the crossbow), the action and gore was pretty good for Michael Bay, IMHO.

 

[Osiris]

Furthermore, I just hope we never go see such a film together, we might argue all night!

 

[Karma]

So if I get it right, you just didn't like the movie!

I personally don't think adding more Pamela time would have helped.

why not? Pamela's hold on Jason reigned on after her death but she laid the ground work.

I think the whole point or theme was to have the iconic figure we all remember most Jason with a Hockey mask hunting people down. They went straight for the action part with updates because they most likely assumed most people watching would be fans and are already acquainted with the story. There was no real need for all the biography stuff like his mother and how he got the mask.

see...that's what im talking about. where is the writing? where's the SET UP? Sean S. Cunningham (the ORIGINAL creator/producer/director of Friday the 13th) struck GOLD because he knew how to WRITE...the same with Wes Craven and Nightmare on Elm Street. you could SEE in some sequels where the writing was LOST and replaced with predictable violence and gore and this current film is no different. Michael Bay does not GRASP the concept of writing a GOOD horror film that pulls you in. You and I grew up around the same time...can you tell me in the "slasher" sub genre (not counting Scream which was the revival) has there been ANY horror movie that is still as frightening as Nightmare on Elm Street? any movie that was as suspensfull and nail biting as the original Friday the 13th?

Personally, I just wanted to see Jason kill people and see if they could make the "situation" a little more believable in this era.

who needs Jason when we had Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer or those assholes who kidnapped that poor woman in the south and tortured her for several days in a trailer? REAL LIFE is scarier than what i saw in this movie...where as the original friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street were something that hadnt been seen before.

On race, I guess the token "Hilter Youth" male, black guy, and Asian guy was a bit much. But I got the subtle joke. By allowing the 1 black guy to last longer and having him fight and make us think he may get away, at least gave a lot of black guys a good laugh as we always yell out loud what we would do and how the black characters if there are any are never "authentic". The black guy in this film had promise.....

ill grant you that. but where are the black women? not since Brandy in "I still know what you did last summer" have we seen a black character survive to the end...and LIVE. I just feel like the casting is STILL largely white washed. they think as long as you have a blonde, brunette and redhead woman that somehow THAT is diversity? it was really hard to sympathize or even CARE about either group of teens. Even "Whitney" was rather BORING, she spent more time being a low grade version of "Fay Wray" ala' King Kong than anything else.

Either way, I think our disagreement is simple. You preferred to have more bio and original story authenticity, I just didn't want it to suck and get right into the meat and potatoes and see what's new. They may have spit on the bio and even like all Jason films, even though the deaths were somewhat predictable (you can't tell me you expected the crossbow), the action and gore was pretty good for Michael Bay, IMHO.

yes. i can agree with you on THIS and as for the crossbow? remember, Pamela offed one of the teens in the original the same way only it wasnt on the boat it was in the archery area. so yes...i could see that coming lol!

 

[Osiris]

Damn Farrah!!!!!!! Fine!!!! Yes, there's nothing scarier than the first Elm Street, however I have to put Stephen Kings "IT" and "Pet Cemetery" in that category. I don't remember the first Friday the 13th to add it to my list meaning I must not have been that scared back then....

As far as the race commentary, your defending it harder than I would I'm impressed. To be perfectly honest, I think many blacks don't get as offended about these things that much these days...I guess the Obama Effect has stepped in i.e. we got a black President so everything else is beneath us now....

I mean we could go into a whole tirade about Hollywood and it's white washing of all films, but it just doesn't bother me that much these days. I have to admit that after years of programming race fell to the bottom of my deck in terms of issues, I truly believe election 2008 helped with alot of that. Not so much because of who won but because of the movement and how Americans of all races came together for a common purpose in ways many of the scarred (like myself) would have never imagined....

Now back to Jason, I think your being too much of an intellectual about the whole thing, your like real deal critic who pays attention to the details you know nuances like plot...I'm a casual consumer who just wants to be entertained. It's like when Bay did Transformers, purists hated it and I can see why, but in the end, it was still entertaining.

Just stand by, their not done screwing with our childhood with Freddy next on the chopping block as well as GI Joe, the Smurfs could be next for all we know!

 

[Karma]

As far as the race commentary, your defending it harder than I would I'm impressed. To be perfectly honest, I think many blacks don't get as offended about these things that much these days...I guess the Obama Effect has stepped in i.e. we got a black President so everything else is beneath us now....

I mean we could go into a whole tirade about Hollywood and it's white washing of all films, but it just doesn't bother me that much these days. I have to admit that after years of programming race fell to the bottom of my deck in terms of issues, I truly believe election 2008 helped with alot of that. Not so much because of who won but because of the movement and how Americans of all races came together for a common purpose in ways many of the scarred (like myself) would have never imagined....

it's not just the racial make up of the cast...its the imagery or the stereotypes that many of those actors/actresses are cast in. its just like how casting of "the real world" is no longer about DIVERSITY...but about people who fit certain roles (the bitch, the goth, the gay etc).

horror movies have historically ignored black men and women and the reason why i speak on it so much is because for me it started with MELROSE PLACE. While NOT a horror movie or anything similar. there were several memorable, "powerfull" black characters (2 were played by Jasmine Guy and Anne Marie Johnson) that SHOULD have stayed on the show, whose "core cast" had NO black characters and yet despite the success of these two characters...neither one lasted past one season. i thought that was the biggest flaw of MP, was its lack of true diversity. the same with horror films. Wes Craven was the first one to break ground on that but no one else has really followed suit. look at the kids he cast. NONE of them were super model looking. Heather Langenkamp (Nancy) for example: was average looking at best when she played that role...when she reprised it in part 3 and "New Nightmare" she had become goregous but she STILL played Nancy in a way that made you care for her and want her to survive.

Now back to Jason, I think your being too much of an intellectual about the whole thing, your like real deal critic who pays attention to the details you know nuances like plot...I'm a casual consumer who just wants to be entertained. It's like when Bay did Transformers, purists hated it and I can see why, but in the end, it was still entertaining.

perhaps i AM being too intellectual about it. ill grant you that...but as a movie goer, I expect to be at least SOMEWHAT satisfied with what i'm purchasing...which is supposed to be "a great and memorable experience". this film left me feeling EMPTY inside LOL!

and for me, i realized early on that it is the nuances of these films (the musical score etc) that can make or break a film. bad writing can't be masked by over the top gore, torture porn or rapid fire action sequences. if that makes me too intellectual, then guilty as charged

Just stand by, their not done screwing with our childhood with Freddy next on the chopping block as well as GI Joe, the Smurfs could be next for all we know!

for ME it began with BEWITCHED (penny marshall, YOU BITCH ) ; Charlie's Angels was TOLERABLE...but Bewitched was just unacceptable. Friday the 13th is a bust...and i know NoES will be too.

 

[Firebird]

I haven't seen this movie yet but I was debating on it. One, usually remake's are awful! Two, the original Friday the 13th was released when I was too young to see it in theaters. So I thought it would be cool to see Jason on the big screen with the remake.

I don't think Michael Bay is that awful although he tends to focus more on action sequences and CG magic.

Most remake's especially horror films are ALWAYS predictable unless you have a film like Underworld. But in the slasher flick genre it's always the same. Some badass comes to town, the woods, a cabin, the subway, etc. and kills mostly teenagers. The dumb blonde usually fall down and somehow the WALKING villain manages to catch up to them. Which always happens with Friday the 13th. Another key note are the individuals who are about to have sex or already having sex. That's always a foreshadowing someone's going to die. Especially since Jason perished in the lake because two lifeguards were having sex.

Jason was creepy in the fact that he was this big-hulking guy in a hockey mask that never died and usually kept coming back for more. I found that Freddy and Michael were much more scary. Freddy could kill you in your dreams and Michael would kill you because you either had contact with Lori Strode or you got in his way.

I'm not surprised to read mixed reviews about this movie. It seemed to do well at the box office though. I think a lot of people whether teenagers or adults were curious to see how Jason would be presented by Michael Bay. I know I'm curious and despite the reviews I might see it even though I read the spoilers, because I hate surprises lol. I do like the twist at the end per Farrah's spoiler. But on the other hand it's predictable because they are going to have a sequel.

I'm actually GLAD that Jason's mother didn't have much of a big part. I always found the first Friday the 13th difficult to watch because Jason's mother was more of the star in it. I liked the second and the other films thereafter.

 

[Rampage]

I will probably wait for DVD ( we go to movies as a family mostly, lol), but Farrah you are the ONLY person I know who talks about Jason's mother. THE ONLY ONE, LMAO!!

I did like the 13th movies OK, but I never found them all that scary. Startling, yeah. But most of the killing was stupid to me, I was never blown away. I always preferred Freddy.

If Bay can make him more mobile, more lethal, more "with it", then I will be more impressed.

 

[Karma]

I will probably wait for DVD ( we go to movies as a family mostly, lol), but Farrah you are the ONLY person I know who talks about Jason's mother. THE ONLY ONE, LMAO!!

I did like the 13th movies OK, but I never found them all that scary. Startling, yeah. But most of the killing was stupid to me, I was never blown away. I always preferred Freddy.

If Bay can make him more mobile, more lethal, more "with it", then I will be more impressed.

laugh if you must, but i have to ask...what movie did YOU watch? the original friday the 13th featured the brutal machinations of Pamela Voorhees, NOT Jason .

Credit must be given where credit is due.

I've been reading around the net and it turns out that INITIALLY Platinum Dunes approached Adrienne King (Alice- the woman who vanquished Pamela and was subsequently killed by Jason in the first sequel) and Betsy Palmer (Pamela Voorhees) to appear in this current version of the film. They were quite excited too from reports but then as Adrienne herself reported on her website, "Platinum Dunes went cold on the idea and told me they didnt want anyone from the original film to appear in this new one. Not even myself or Betsy....go figure!"

ALOT of die hard fans of the franchise have sounded off about their displeasure with this.

The movie is doing WELL at the box office, and Platinum Dunes has now declared a sequel is DEFINATELY doable.

 

[Prophet]

I have not seen this but I do want to, just to judge for myself. I personally cannot watch Nightmare on Elm Street... The whole Freddie character REALLY scares me, and I have never sat through one of the movies because of him, his entire appearance really scares the shit out of me. And the fact that he gets you in your dreams just like TOTALLY fucked with me haha.

But some of the Horror movies as of late that I did like was the Rob Zombie Halloween remake, I thought it was pretty decent, they made it current and I didn't mind it at all.

I also like the Devil's Rejects and House of 1,000 Corpses.. I think what I liked about those movies was that they kind of made those psychopaths LIKEABLE. I love the end of Devil's Rejects when Freebird is playing and they just go HEAD on into the ENDLESS amount of police. I loved it.

 

[Karma]

Freddy Krueger lost his truly menacing factor after parts 3 and 4. People started to see him as an "Anti hero" which was the dumbest development...they forgot what his roots were and Wes Craven was thoroughly disgusted with it which is why he was not involved with any future "Freddy" projects save for "New Nightmare" which was one of the most critically acclaimed of the "nightmare" franchise.

You LIKED Rob Zombie's "Halloween" remake!? Oh i have NOTHING ELSE to say to you after this! NEXT --->

Rob Zombie is one of the most SICK, DISTURBED individuals on the loose..its evidenced by the films he makes. I have a BIG problem with him and his films.

Go right ahead and waste your money on this Friday the 13th. Rotten Tomatos.com has only given it a 26% rating so far and reviews are generally mixed with the conensus being that none of the characters are remotely likable, the plot is vague and it does nothing to BOOST the mythos or the franchise. Gee...I couldve told them THAT once I found out Platinum Dunes was behind the "reimagining" LOL!

 

[Firebird]

But some of the Horror movies as of late that I did like was the Rob Zombie Halloween remake, I thought it was pretty decent, they made it current and I didn't mind it at all.

Wow Brandon! I'm an avid horror fan myself and I can sit through a LOT of gory and gruesome films including Hostel and the Saw films. But the remake of Halloween didn’t sit well with me. There were parts of that film that had me overly queasy to my stomach. While Rob Zombie’s portrayal was far more dark, gruesome, and sadistic. I found that in parts I had to shut this movie and take a reprieve, I was that disturbed by this film. That NEVER happens to me!

I found a few things disturbing about the remake of Halloween. One of them was Michael had LONG hair! The actor who portrayed Michael creeped me out! I think that’s what Zombie was going for. But I found a lot of the murder scenes when Michael was a child correlated to more of a psychological aspect of a serial killer and not necessarily someone as “pure evil” as Dr. Loomis was quoted in the original film. I also found the animal abuse scenes that reason I had difficulty with the movie. Someone as evil and cruel as Michael probably wouldn’t care about animals his only real priority was his sister.

I just found the movie to be a trainwreck but kudos to you for liking it! I rented it from Netflix and I was like “what the hell this movie is disgusting!” Zombie’s other films are disturbing as well. I’m not big on the torture-porn genre or anything sadistic like his films tend to be. His music I can handle but his movies just don’t sit well.

As far as Freddy he freaked me out when I was a child but I liked that. I think out of all the horror villains he’s probably the most feared because there’s a sense of realism with his character. Someone who haunts your dreams and is capable of killing you in them? Yeah, I know I didn’t want to sleep after seeing the first Nightmare on Elm Street lol.

 

[Prophet]

Well I think I liked the movies because they actually scared me ya know? I was afraid of Michael in Zombie's remake, but even the first time I saw Halloween I was not scared of Michael Meyers I was absolutely ANNOYED by him. I was like "why are these people staying in their residential suburb? FUCKING RUN FOR TOWN!"

But I think The Devil's Rejects was a lot less gory than House of 1,000 Corpses and had a good back story, I don't know maybe I am just not phased by the gore, I just happened to like the stories haha.

 

[Persephone]

I was never a huge Friday the 13th fan. I don't think i've even sat through a full movie of any of the original films lol. I've seen bits and pieces. Halloween and Nightmare on Elm Street were more my style. And as a kid, Freddy scared the living SHIT out of me. In one of the movies, where Freddy stuck his knife finger up through the mattress and sliced the mattress down the middle scared me so bad I slept on one side of my bed for weeks after seeing it LOL. And that was really difficult because I had a twin sized bed.

I'm not really interesrted in seeing the remake of Friday the 13th. I might watch it if someone asks me to, but i'm not going to spend money on it renting it myself.

As for Rob Zombie, I liked his remake of Halloween. I mean, NOTHING can overshadow the original. It's a classic. But I liked Zombie's inturpritation of the movie and how he decided to go far back into Michael's childhood rather than just making a carbon copy of the original. Yeah it was disturbing, but a lot of his movies are.

My question is....how good the Nightmare on Elm Street remake will turn out. I think if they did it right, it could be a kick ass movie. I mean...who the hell ISN'T scared of falling alseep and being killed in their dreams? lol

 

[Karma]

I was never a huge Friday the 13th fan. I don't think i've even sat through a full movie of any of the original films lol. I've seen bits and pieces. Halloween and Nightmare on Elm Street were more my style. And as a kid, Freddy scared the living SHIT out of me. In one of the movies, where Freddy stuck his knife finger up through the mattress and sliced the mattress down the middle scared me so bad I slept on one side of my bed for weeks after seeing it LOL. And that was really difficult because I had a twin sized bed.

Nightmare on Elmstreet 1 remains one of the few movies that truly unnerves me. I can't watch it by myself, the creepy musical score through the movie (composed by Charles Bernstein) is recognized as one of the scariest in modern cinema and so many other eerie elements of that film that were lost after parts 3 and 4 make it a true modern classic.

Nancy Tompson (from nightmare 1, 3 and 7 ) reigns supreme as one of the greatest horror movie heroines of all time.

I'm not really interesrted in seeing the remake of Friday the 13th. I might watch it if someone asks me to, but i'm not going to spend money on it renting it myself.

or you could do what i did and wait for someone to post it in parts on youtube and watch it for free like i did rob zombies halloween! that way the only thing you'll waste is your time and brain power LOL!

As for Rob Zombie, I liked his remake of Halloween. I mean, NOTHING can overshadow the original. It's a classic. But I liked Zombie's inturpritation of the movie and how he decided to go far back into Michael's childhood rather than just making a carbon copy of the original. Yeah it was disturbing, but a lot of his movies are.

i dont understand how his attempt to make a psychotic monster more 'sympathetic' seems so "innovative" to people. all he did was add needless gore, nudity, obscene language and misogynistic violence to the film.

My question is....how good the Nightmare on Elm Street remake will turn out. I think if they did it right, it could be a kick ass movie. I mean...who the hell ISN'T scared of falling alseep and being killed in their dreams? lol

in the hands of michael bay and platinum dunes? it wont be good at all. the problem is that they focus on JUST the villain rather than the plot and the other characters including the "final girl". in the freddy movies, "Nancy" represents Freddy's ultimate arch rival. its bared out in the novelization and even the NOES website companion, along with Wes Craven himself.

We don't need another movie with sleek "slasher" effects. the movie needs to ADHERE to themythos, the backstory and stay true to the original film.